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October 20th, 2008


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06:44 pm - I am claiming this before the episode airs!
This post will contain speculative spoilers and references to the promo for this week’s upcoming episode of Supernatural. I’m LJ-cutting it all for those on my flist who would prefer not to see such things. :-)

Do you guys remember the end of season 2? When I was thinking of writing a Supernatural spec script and then the show stole my idea with "What Is and What Should Never Be"?

I came up with a new idea after that. Like the first, my central thematic focus was on Dean and fear, something I’ve been dying to explore. Considering that Dean’s worst fear (losing Sam, not being able to save or protect him) had already occurred in "All Hell Breaks Loose," I had to dig around to come up with anything that might conceivably be that frightening.


When I saw the preview for this week's episode, I just about fell off the couch.

A "fear disease" or "fear demon" episode probably had to happen at some point. And I wouldn’t have thought twice about it except that the promo really seemed to indicate that the episode will head in the direction I had planned: Dean getting frightened, Dean seeing what’s not there, Dean seeing things instead as a horrific vision of his deepest fears.

I still wouldn’t have blinked....except for the glimpse of SAM WITH YELLOW EYES. OMG.

Because that was going to be my climactic moment.

Here’s a note from my files, dated June and then 7/5/07:

Additional notes re: fear demon idea:

I just had a scene pop into my head. Sam and Dean are tracking whatever-it-is they think they’re after (there’s been a crazy escalation of stuff since the simple beginning, and Dean thinks Sam is acting weird--fear demon is messing with them, but they don’t know this yet). It’s getting really tense, and suddenly Sam turns and his eyes flash yellow. It’s a fear Dean hasn’t even articulated to himself (and thus more convincing): what if the YED was right? Sam came back wrong–and not just wrong, but with part of the YED anchored into him. Dean killed the YED, but he didn’t kill it enough, and it’s been in Sam this whole time. GAH.

7/5/7 addition: OMG. If this happened, how would Dean react? We’ve seen him utterly unable to kill Sam (per his father’s request), or even contemplate that. Would this situation crack that resolve? Because Dean made the deal that let the YED survive its demise? He screwed up, he made a bigger mistake than not saving Sam, and now he has to fix it? [Not sure this would track, but could he try to use the deal in reverse to kill the YED-in-Sam? Start trying to break the deal, so the crossroads demon will come kill Sam again, and the YED with him?]

The horrific thing being that Dean is being played by this bastard fear demon. Sam’s not the YED; Dean’s deal didn’t go that wrong; and Dean still needs to save Sam, not kill him. Wow. I think the structure of this episode needs to significantly change, to play this up.


You can ask anyone in my writer’s group; they saw a version of the outline I created from this basis (in Sept. 2007).

An additional note I made after getting comments from my writer’s group:

>>>How do both boys perceive the other’s fear moments? Dean is imprisoned/dying when Sam “sees” the crossroads demon, but how does Sam handle being mistaken for Yellow-Eyes-in-Sam? Maybe it’s literally what I imagined before: a filter across reality. I mean, the other victims see what isn’t there at all; maybe in this case, working Sam and Dean against each other, the ghosts use their movements to correlate with the fears. I.e., Sam *is* facing Dean, trying to placate him, talking to him, but Dean is hearing the voice of Yellow-Eyes mocking him (“you thought I was joking when I asked if you were sure this was 100% pure Sam? There’s no need to lie when the truth is so tasty”), not Sam’s confusion and pleading. Visually? Maybe kind of like the ouija board scene in “In My Time of Dying,”round and round showing the different points of view, aurally and visually; maybe like in that Heroes episode where we see the visions of Matt and Nathan, how they coincide and why, the reality underlying the lies.


Basically, this is me staking a claim to having come up with an awesome idea well over a year before the show went there. We’ll see how close it is once Thursday rolls around. :-)
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From:kalquessa
Date:October 21st, 2008 02:59 am (UTC)
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I'm so glad I'm not the only person whose notes contain words like "OMG" and "GAH!" Hee.

And if the ep is anywhere near as awesome as this sounds...we're in for some gut-wrenching, horrifying angst that will mop the floor with us and make us like it.
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From:izhilzha
Date:October 21st, 2008 03:59 pm (UTC)
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I'm so glad I'm not the only person whose notes contain words like "OMG" and "GAH!"

Usually I avoid showing my notes to anyone, because they are full of stuff like that, along with personal abbreviations; some are cryptic in the extreme. *g*

I am all for this gut-wrenching, horrifying angst. Is it Thursday yet?
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From:leelust
Date:October 21st, 2008 10:23 am (UTC)
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Wow. I suppose you're spoiler-free? Or not? Well, i'd say from what i know wbout next ep they'll show us things a little differently but it's not my point right now. I saw the promo and i saw YESam but somehow i never put 2 and 2 together... wow... i mean we know that one of the geatest fears for Dean is inability to save Sam. Another one great fear that we saw in 310 is the possibility to become a demon (or S4 version - to be bring back wrong somehow) but when i saw the promo it didn't click in my head that another greatest fear was created from Sam's words about demon's blood - that Sam can become YED. I don't know what's wrong with my brain and why i didn't notice it before but it means (at least for me) that Dean on one step closer to be able to kill Sam if he will have to...
I don't remember if i tell you after 404 what i saw in Dean's look in that motel scene when he told Sam that if he didn't know him he'd hunt him - i saw first glimpse of Dean's understanding that his brother can become a monster and he won't be able to do something about it... he looked at Sam that way for the first time then...
So all in all i think it'll be (as always) double meaning ep - don't know what we'll se on the first level of it but underneath i'm sure we'll be close to your description of angst.
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From:izhilzha
Date:October 21st, 2008 04:01 pm (UTC)
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I am almost completely spoiler-free...I enjoy being shocked by the promos and the actual episodes. :-)

when i saw the promo it didn't click in my head that another greatest fear was created from Sam's words about demon's blood - that Sam can become YED. I don't know what's wrong with my brain and why i didn't notice it before but it means (at least for me) that Dean on one step closer to be able to kill Sam if he will have to...

However they explore it this week (I'm sure it won't be exactly what I came up with), I do think that, yeah, this will be another step on Dean's road to "will I be able to stop Sam if I can't save him?" *hugs Dean* *hugs Sam*
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From:leelust
Date:October 23rd, 2008 02:23 pm (UTC)
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Oops, i hope i didn't spoil you.

this will be another step on Dean's road to "will I be able to stop Sam if I can't save him?
Oh, yeah, i think that too. And it'll hurt and after 405 i don't want to think about it but in the same time i think it'll be the climax of their conflict and i don't know how they'll solve it but they'll go there definitely - they don't afraid of complex themes... Poor us and poor boys...
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From:feliciakw
Date:October 21st, 2008 02:59 pm (UTC)
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Aw, hon. We both know that our favorite shows have a tendency to listen in to our phone conversations and swipe our ideas. :-) I can't really imagine trying to write a spec script for something as story arc heavy as SPN, but your ideas are great. (Obviously. A variation of them ends up as canon. You should be writing for the show.)

Any chance that once your done with visions!Dean it could be worked into a stand-alone spec?
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From:izhilzha
Date:October 21st, 2008 04:14 pm (UTC)
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Heh. Well, maybe I'll get to write for a different show someday.

Any chance that once your done with visions!Dean it could be worked into a stand-alone spec?

I doubt it. The whole idea really revolves around Dean and Sam as they were in season 2. Even with the season-2 shadows we're getting this season, I'm not sure the idea could be adapted. For one thing, Castiel is in the picture; for another, Dean seems a good deal more grounded, and Sam far more independent and less willing to see his powers as 'wrong'.

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