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June 6th, 2011


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09:50 am - Doctor Who, "A Good Man Goes to War"
Okay, that was 4 parts AWESOME to about 1 part HMM and 2 parts OMGWTFBBQ.


1. Overall, that was fantastic. Suitably epic in parts, and beautifully, intimately joyful in others. Not as good as "The Doctor's Wife," but I shall be fascinated to see where all this goes.

2. RORANICUS PONDICUS. Rory is incredibly awesome, and somehow it took me up to the opening of this episode to realize exactly how hard Moffat has been setting up parallels between Rory and the Doctor. I don't know where this is going, but I like it.

3. One of my favorite tv scenes ever: Rory coming into Amy's room in his centurion outfit, with their baby in his arms. Kissing and crying and this astonishing, radiant joy from all of them. And then the Doctor comes in, tries to leave, and Rory won't let him. Best Team TARDIS ever. *tearing up*

4. Melody is Melody POND, but Rory calls Amy Mrs. Williams. LOL.

5. Worst moment of the episode: when Eyepatch Lady tells the Doctor she's fooled him twice, and my brain went: "Amy again...? Oh crap, no, Melody is Flesh!" And then she dissolved in Amy's arms, and that right there is horrific nightmare fuel, thank you Mr. Moffat. *gags*

6. What are your thoughts on the apparent theme of the Doctor harming people/worlds by being the Doctor? We visited this last year in the finale, and to me it would have been far more appropriate to Ten than to the current Eleven (who is a trickster to be sure, but quite a beneficent one overall). I feel like this will really need to go somewhere powerful, or it shall be pointless and a waste of time. However, the season is not over yet...

7. Some fantastic guest stars in this episode, despite the very quick set-ups for all of them. (Fat and Skinny Married Gay Anglican Marines, ROTFL)

8. ...aaaand the "twist" at the end. Okay. I saw that possibility for River's identity speculated upon, and didn't like it. I'm not a fan of threads pulling together too tightly within a story (i.e. Jack as Face of Boe. DNW). And yet I have to say: pending where this storyline goes, since there are many unresolved threads still in play, I am on board. And it's almost entirely due to the Doctor's reaction to finding out that Amy and Rory are River's parents. SOLD, Matt Smith.

9. These are the times when it's good to be a genficcer/canon-shipper. I have a feel a lot of 'ships and OT3s and OT4s were just render squicky to a lot of fandom. I can't feel too sorry, I'm afraid: I'm overall just far too thrilled at how Moffat is exploring family right now. *beams*

When will we have more episodes, again?



ETA: I'm seeing some comments in reviews that people dislike how gleeful the Doctor was when he finds out who River is... and that it's because he knows she's part Time Lord, now. As if that's the only reason he'd be happy to be with her.

I didn't see that at all. What I saw was 1) his glee that she was Amy and Rory's child, and 2) that she's proof that Melody will in fact be rescued. Really awesome timey-wimey proof. Did I miss something? Or is this just YMMV?

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From:ladymercury_10
Date:June 6th, 2011 05:03 pm (UTC)
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I initially very opposed to the theory that River was Amy and Rory's daughter. The show pulled it together in a way that, while still disappointing to me, felt plausible and not like the disaster I had been expecting.

As it touches on shipping, I too am a genficcer/canon-shipper, although I like fics that explore the Amy/Rory/Doctor love triangle or that treat the three of them as a platonic ship. Those feel a little weird now, knowing that they may be his parents-in-law.
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From:tree_and_leaf
Date:June 6th, 2011 06:48 pm (UTC)
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Those feel a little weird now, knowing that they may be his parents-in-law.

The Doctor thinks it's weird, too, I think, given that little moment when he went from flirting with River to looking nervously over his shoulder to the parents in law.
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From:izhilzha
Date:June 6th, 2011 07:29 pm (UTC)
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LOL, this. I especially loved that he gives them that look right after making expressive kissy-sounds. <3 Matt Smith.
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From:tree_and_leaf
Date:June 6th, 2011 07:42 pm (UTC)
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He's so good at being the Doctor. I can't believe that I was worried he wouldn't be good in the part!
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From:izhilzha
Date:June 6th, 2011 09:16 pm (UTC)
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Me too. He's definitely "my Doctor" now, all due respect to Nine.
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From:ladymercury_10
Date:June 7th, 2011 12:28 am (UTC)
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Haha, I didn't notice that! Good catch!
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From:izhilzha
Date:June 6th, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC)
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I've read a few Amy/Rory/Doctor platonic ships (I can't romantically OT3 them), and I understand the appeal. But I also wonder if this will, in the long run, sort of help that out. I mean... okay, I am a sucker for family stuff, and for friendship stuff, and I feel like the distance between "platonic OT3" and "in-laws" isn't all that far.

I dunno, I guess we'll see what fic gets produced next. :)
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From:ladymercury_10
Date:June 7th, 2011 12:31 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I don't see them as a romantic threesome either.

I hope you're right! We'll have to wait and see.
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From:jhall1
Date:June 6th, 2011 06:56 pm (UTC)
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6. What are your thoughts on the apparent theme of the Doctor harming people/worlds by being the Doctor? We visited this last year in the finale, and to me it would have been far more appropriate to Ten than to the current Eleven (who is a trickster to be sure, but quite a beneficent one overall).

I'm guessing that Eleven is harvesting the bitter fruit of Ten's hubris. Though Eleven is a different character from Ten, I can understand that his enemies would take some convincing of that.
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From:izhilzha
Date:June 6th, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC)
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Mm, that makes sense. I had something like that in my head, but was having trouble articulating it.
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From:ladybrick
Date:June 7th, 2011 03:59 am (UTC)
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I'm glad it's only a midseason finale because most of the issues touched on relate back to the last two season finales.

I think we need a spinoff show called the Victorian Silurian Lesbian Detective, Her Trusty Maid, and Their Swords of Pointy Death.
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From:izhilzha
Date:June 7th, 2011 07:26 am (UTC)
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I think we need a spinoff show called the Victorian Silurian Lesbian Detective, Her Trusty Maid, and Their Swords of Pointy Death.

LOL, yes. Although genficcer that I am, I'd be all over that show regardless of the presence or lack of sexual subtext/text. Very cool, those two.
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From:ladybrick
Date:June 7th, 2011 01:44 pm (UTC)
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Actually, going back and watching the clip of them, it seems she can't tell mammals apart which would make her more bisexual. Still, awesome characters and and interesting dynamic.
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From:sarcasticval
Date:June 13th, 2011 03:46 am (UTC)
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I think we need a spinoff show called the Victorian Silurian Lesbian Detective, Her Trusty Maid, and Their Swords of Pointy Death.

Finally just saw the episode and YES.
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From:kalquessa
Date:July 22nd, 2011 11:14 pm (UTC)
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THIS.
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From:scionofgrace
Date:June 11th, 2011 02:01 pm (UTC)
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Just saw this, hence the late response:

Something I was thinking: the horror related to family and babies interests me. Moffat, unlike Davies, has a wife and sons. How much influence does Sue Vertue have on her husband's sense of "grown-up horror"? I wonder if he consulted her when it came to Amy's situation, 'cause it sure felt "real" to me! There was something raw about Amy's distress that I don't think men usually get.

All speculation here, of course!
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From:izhilzha
Date:June 11th, 2011 03:03 pm (UTC)
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I definitely agree that there's something about having a family that really informs the Moff's sense of horror. It's effective--I seriously almost threw up when Melody turned into Flesh.

There was something raw about Amy's distress that I don't think men usually get.

Indeed. I'd love to know how much of that was in the writing, and how much was Karen Gillan--I read in an interview that she had a hard time with this episode, and called up her mum to consult her on how to play some of it.
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From:kalquessa
Date:July 22nd, 2011 11:15 pm (UTC)
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RORANICUS PONDICUS FOR THE WIN. I AM CALLING HIM THAT FOREVER NOW.
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From:izhilzha
Date:July 23rd, 2011 04:15 am (UTC)
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RORYYYYY!

Now I can link you to this:
http://davidbrider.livejournal.com/935947.html

:-D
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From:kalquessa
Date:July 23rd, 2011 04:26 am (UTC)
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The universe tried to erase Rory Williams once. It exploded.

*dies*

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