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August 24th, 2006


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01:31 pm - Random creative musings
And I do mean random. Just stuff in my head from stories I'm working on (or trying NOT to work on, or stuff I'm pondering for ficathons). Feel free to jump in with new takes on these, or comments, or answers....

--Do we know which SG teams are assigned to which specific duties? I'm sure someone out there has a list, and I know, for instance, that we've got at least one strictly diplomatic team (didn't they negociate for SG-1's release in "Prisoners"?), a couple of scientific teams (SG-9? "A Matter of Time"?), and a couple (SG-3?) of strictly military teams. I just don't know who's who. You know?

--Are there any mentions of Cassie Frasier after the episode "Heroes"? I seriously need to know for a fic I'm writing; I don't want to accidentally contradict canon just because I haven't gotten to whatever line yet.

--Can anyone think of ways to strand a couple of people on another 'Gated planet without using any of the ways the show has used? That leaves out: the Gate getting buried (or hit by a meteor, lol); biological containment; the Gate getting sunk; enemy capture/enemy control of the Gate; singular/collective memory loss; broken or lost DHD. Or a way for someone to accidentally get Gated to the wrong planet? (This has to be solvable by Jack in some way, it's not a Carter or Daniel fic.)

--I like stories where we get to see the characters through a realistic OC's eyes. Like dietcokechic's Barista Series. Would you all shun me if I created an OFC solely for the purposes of sending her on a mission with SG-1, and showing them all through a different pov?

Okay, I'm going to stop now, before I start asking questions that will give away ficathon assignments rather than just my own brainwork. Heh.

As you were.
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From:scionofgrace
Date:August 24th, 2006 09:36 pm (UTC)
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Wikipedia has a full listing of SG teams and what they tend to do. It's not entirely consistent, though.

Cassie was mentioned in season 9's "Ripple Effect," only that she was in college studying medical biology, IIRC, and that she took Janet's death very hard.

So far, the only way to gate to the wrong planet (outside of an energy surge making it "jump") is misdialling. Which, in my opinion, would be funny. I don't know any other ways to disable a Gate.

--Dude. Do the OC. Because I'm really fond of that particular device, even if it's not always a good idea.
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From:izhilzha
Date:August 24th, 2006 11:42 pm (UTC)
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Wikipedia has a full listing of SG teams and what they tend to do. It's not entirely consistent, though.

Dude, I am still not used to looking up stuff in Wiki. Wow, they really do have a list, don't they? I'm suddenly beset by plot bunnies charting the careers of various SGC officers on other teams....

Cassie was mentioned in season 9's "Ripple Effect,"

Thankyouthankyouthankyou.

So far, the only way to gate to the wrong planet (outside of an energy surge making it "jump") is misdialling. Which, in my opinion, would be funny.

Omg. Considering that this is Jack we're talking about...heck yeah, that would be funny. And considering that he probably had to dial in the heat of battle while providing cover/defense for a disabled teammate, it's not that implausible, either. Hee.

Do the OC. Because I'm really fond of that particular device, even if it's not always a good idea.

Augh, don't tempt me. Because I know perfectly well that this impulse stems from the same place as Mary Sues (I just want to travel through the Gate with Jack, you know?), and I would have to come up with a really plausible reason to have someone go along. Hmmm. Now I'm imagining a version of "Proving Ground" but with civilians/scientists (who will be going offworld regularly and have to be trained) instead of military recruits. Hmmm....
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From:trinityday
Date:August 24th, 2006 10:29 pm (UTC)
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--Can anyone think of ways to strand a couple of people on another 'Gated planet without using any of the ways the show has used? That leaves out: the Gate getting buried (or hit by a meteor, lol); biological containment; the Gate getting sunk; enemy capture/enemy control of the Gate; singular/collective memory loss; broken or lost DHD. Or a way for someone to accidentally get Gated to the wrong planet? (This has to be solvable by Jack in some way, it's not a Carter or Daniel fic.)

Is an earthquake or another natural disaster too close to being buried or hit by a meteor? Inaccessable without being buried? Probably... I'll keep thinking about this.
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From:izhilzha
Date:August 24th, 2006 11:36 pm (UTC)
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That might be a little close...I mean, when the meteor hit in "Hundred Days," it effectively buried the Gate, but that's no different from a quake, really, right?
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From:mistraltoes
Date:August 25th, 2006 12:11 am (UTC)
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Cut off by lava flow? 'Cause I love me some volcanoes. :)
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From:reveilles
Date:August 25th, 2006 02:15 pm (UTC)
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Ooh! Nice userpic. :)
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From:reveilles
Date:August 25th, 2006 02:24 pm (UTC)
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Or somebody else taking off with the gate? You know, somebody showing up, loading it onto a ship, and flying away? Or put it on a transporter platform so that it moves around the planet at random intervals. Though why anybody would do that is an open question. The Nox camouflaged it so you couldn't see it unless you were within the camouflage field. Maybe something that prevents you from seeing it if you walk too far from it? Or the locals have an iris on it, which they can open and close at will, and they installed it after they found out that SG-1 had arrived? It's a stretch. Or the gate is malfunctioning, they don't know why, but it won't maintain a stable wormhole: it initiates the wormhole with the blow-out effect and then immediately hangs up. Maybe the planet has multiple gates and they're giving each other a busy signal. Or SG-1 gets brainwashed into being afraid of going through the gate (but that's lame). Or it's a one-way gate situation, where you can exit the gate, but if you try to approach it, something zaps you before you can get close enough to dial (unless you've got a password transponder or something). Or the Ori-followers bring the gate network crashing down by transmitting a jamming signal on the same "wireless" frequency that the gates communicate on. Then the gate won't even dial, because it can't connect to the destination gate.

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From:feliciakw
Date:August 24th, 2006 11:02 pm (UTC)
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--I like stories where we get to see the characters through a realistic OC's eyes.

DL Witherspoon has a good one in the TS universe, too, but I can't think of the title right off. So, yeah. Go for it.

Also, drop me an e-mail when you get a chance, 'kay?

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From:izhilzha
Date:August 24th, 2006 11:36 pm (UTC)
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I emailed you, did you get it?

And yeah, Witherspoon's is one I often think of when I think of really good OC-pov fic.
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From:feliciakw
Date:August 24th, 2006 11:56 pm (UTC)
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Yes, I've received 2 e-mails from you. :-)

Regarding the misdialing of the 'gate: Is it even remotely plausible that since planets have shifted that there was a glitch in the transfer system, and that dialing a gate address, though it's a valid address, it's now valid for a different planet than it was?

Does that make any sense? Like a wrong number I got several months ago: I got a call from a college trying to get a hold of one of their applicants. Since it sounded kind of important, I called them back and told them no such person lived here, but the odd thing was that they'd dialed the right phone number. They just didn't get the right person.
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From:kerravonsen
Date:August 24th, 2006 11:42 pm (UTC)
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Another mention of Cassie was actually much earlier -- in the episode "1969" she is the one that sends SG-1 back to the "present" when they had landed too far in the future. So unless history has changed again, it's canonical that she's alive in some unspecified future (and her hair goes white).

The classic way for someone to accidentally get Gated to the wrong planet is an energy surge that causes the gate to "jump", but it also canonically doesn't jump very far -- the first example was in "Solitudes" where they discovered the Antarctic gate because Sam and Jack got gated there instead of to the SGC's gate.

On the other hand, another way of going to the wrong gate might be sabotage, if someone hacked into the gate computer and tampered with it so that -- no, that won't work, because the coordinates are displayed on the gate itself, not just the dialing computer.

What if there are two gates in the same planetary system, on different planets, and a rare conjunction of the planets means that they are lined up so that Planet B's gate is "in the way" of Planet A's gate at the time they gated in. Jack could figure it out because it's an astronomical phenomenon, and he knows astronomy.
I'm not sure whether an energy surge would also be required in order to make the wormhole "jump" to Planet B's gate as well.
We know that wormholes do have relations to positions in space, because of the time (I can't remember the episode title, was it something like "Red Sun"?) when the SGC damaged the sun of a system because they activated their gate when the sun was between Earth and the planet where the gate was, and the sun was damaged because the wormhole went through it (and such a thing didn't happen with normal stargates because the DHDs have safety overrides which prevents the gate from connecting at such times).

Which actually makes an interesting wrinkle -- since that implies that there might be times when one could gate to world A from world B but not from world C because of the relative positions of world C and world A. I don't know if that's been used in any episodes, though.

Would you all shun me if I created an OFC solely for the purposes of sending her on a mission with SG-1, and showing them all through a different pov?

I think you are a mature enough writer to avoid the perils of Mary-Sue...
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From:izhilzha
Date:August 25th, 2006 01:03 am (UTC)
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Another mention of Cassie was actually much earlier -- in the episode "1969" she is the one that sends SG-1 back to the "present" when they had landed too far in the future. So unless history has changed again, it's canonical that she's alive in some unspecified future (and her hair goes white).

You're right. Um, I almost totally blocked out that scene, I think, because to me it made no sense whatsoever and it never comes up again. Heh.

The classic way for someone to accidentally get Gated to the wrong planet is an energy surge that causes the gate to "jump", but it also canonically doesn't jump very far -- the first example was in "Solitudes" where they discovered the Antarctic gate

That's what I initially thought of, but then I thought, wow, it was still on the same planet--how likely would it be that the wormhole would actually get redirected and hit another gate lightyears off track? Very poor odds, I should think.

Thank you for the brainstorming; the conjunction of the planets idea is a good one, I shall have to ponder it. I love being able to use Jack's astronomy, so that's another plus for it.

The episode where the wormhole damaged the sun of the planet they Gate to is, iirc, "Red Sky."

Which actually makes an interesting wrinkle -- since that implies that there might be times when one could gate to world A from world B but not from world C because of the relative positions of world C and world A. I don't know if that's been used in any episodes, though.

I don't recall any...though there's something similar in my favorite SG-1/QL fic, which I cannot at the moment recall the title of! I think it's in your reviews, though; the one where Sam helps, er, Samantha figure out why they can't Gate off the planet...?

I think you are a mature enough writer to avoid the perils of Mary-Sue...

Hopefully you won't be sorry you said that. ;-) No, seriously: that means a lot, coming from you. Thanks.
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From:izhilzha
Date:August 30th, 2006 08:33 pm (UTC)
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Ah-ha. I knew I'd read something a teensy bit similar to your juxtaposed Gate theory. See Sam Carter forget to adjust the dialing address for Earth to account for drift all the way out at the edge of the galaxy in Interference Patterns. I forgot how fantastically good that fic is.

It's really not the same thing at all, though, so your idea is back to the top of my idea hopper. :-)

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From:whitemartyr
Date:August 25th, 2006 12:09 am (UTC)
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Okay, I am now totally thinking of The Shield...
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From:izhilzha
Date:August 25th, 2006 12:50 am (UTC)
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Shut it, you. *friendly shove*

(that icons still makes me giggle)

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