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December 29th, 2006


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09:49 am - Fanfiction containing faith
This is a request, actually; I was looking through old documents on a disk I found while cleaning my room for the holidays, and discovered a list of fics that in some way dealt with faith in God. I think I had, once upon a time, planned to create a webpage that gathered such fics (or links to them) in one place, regardless of fandom.


Here are a few examples, some from that list, a couple more recently found:

Angels of Light (Forever Knight/Touched by an Angel), by Azar. The "faith" bit is obvious, but it's so deftly handled, with the opposition of the vampire's self-damnation and the fact that grace is still offered to him, if he can only bring himself to see that, and receive it.

Schism (X-Files), also by Azar. Features a Christian OC who isn't obnoxious. Who knew such a thing existed in fanfic?

In a Land of Shadow (The Sentinel/The Professionals), by Gil Hale. I'm not sure this should even be included in this list, but there are coincidences and spiritual hints (The Sentinel, so, visions even) in this fic that stood out strongly to me as direct evidence of God's grace in the world the author has created.

Price to Pay, and particularly its sequel, Truth and Consequences (SG-1, AU from late 5th season), by watervole. This double-header is a great novel anyway, but it also includes the only convincing conversion scene I have ever read in fiction. I am not joking; it flattened me with its truth, and if I wasn't her fangirl before, I am now.

(I was wanting to put rj_anderson's Doctor Who fic "Sacrifice" in here, but it has been removed from the net due to happy profic-writing complications, so. I can live without it. *g*)


My request to you all is to rec in the comments other fics that you think might fit into this catagory. Doesn't have to be faith in the Christian God, per se; I'll take other stuff as well, including fictional religions such as the Prophets of Bajor (Kira's journey of faith has always moved me). But I would be interested to see what kind of list we can scrape up, and what fandoms might be most represented. (I almost included one of vilakins's Blake's 7 fics in this list; and there are others I left out as well, including a few from the Supernatural fandom.)
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From:lizamanynames
Date:December 29th, 2006 07:21 pm (UTC)
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OH, THANK YOU for this list! There's definately a vilakins fic or two that you should include, and a Hrafan one, too - I'll scare up those links when I'm not at work and can use my firefox bookmarks.
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From:izhilzha
Date:December 29th, 2006 07:47 pm (UTC)
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Thank *you*. :-) I do look forward to adding to this list; in fact, I'll need to get out the rest of the old one when I get home tonight, and there's at least one honorh fic I should probably add myself....
From:rydra_wong
Date:December 29th, 2006 08:14 pm (UTC)
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*wanders by across the fflists*

synecdochic did a lovely SG-1 Five Things, the fifth of which concerns religion:

http://synecdochic.livejournal.com/76769.html#cutid3 (gen)

And janedavitt responded to the same prompt by writing Teal'c and Daniel in a cathedral:

http://janedavitt.livejournal.com/611859.html (gen)

troyswann's "Coming Forth By Day" deals with the possibility of faith in the Egyptian gods - which, in the SG-1 universe, is tricky:

http://salieri.bonuspoints.net/comingforth.html (implied slash)

frostfire_17's "Here Is No Water" isn't about religion per se, but handles Cam's faith nicely as an integral part of his characterization:

http://frostfire-17.livejournal.com/40650.html (Warning: NC-17 slash, and a very non-fluffy fic.)

IIRC, there are definitely some Farscape fics dealing with faith re: Zhaan and/or Stark, but I'll leave it to astrogirl2 to point them out *g*.
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From:astrogirl2
Date:December 29th, 2006 09:28 pm (UTC)
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A few of my own fics deal with religious sensibilities of one kind or another, usually from the POV of Zhaan or Stark, but I don't know if any of them are really about faith per se... Actually, stories that are explicitly about faith in the sense that seems to be meant here are kind of likely to put me off, coming as I do from a worldview which regards that sort of faith as a negative rather than a positive thing. So I'm, er, probably not the best person to ask.

I suppose I could hunt up some Farscape fics which deal with spiritual issues and let izhilzha judge whether they meet her criteria or not... I'm pretty bad at remembering stories, though. :)
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From:izhilzha
Date:December 29th, 2006 09:43 pm (UTC)
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Thank you! Man, I'm bummed that Cam fic you rec is explicit slash...I have been intrigued by the fact that the SG-1 creators bothered to let him at least have a background of "religion," given their annoying record of ignoring any faith in God or gods except for that forced by manipulative beings like the Goa'uld.
From:rydra_wong
Date:December 30th, 2006 09:46 pm (UTC)
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Belated addition:

I know executrix has written Avon as a Catholic - but again, her work is generally slash.
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From:lizamanynames
Date:December 30th, 2006 07:55 pm (UTC)

As Promised...

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I've decided to do this by Author, because it's easiest. Mostly Blakes7 fics, with Astro's Farscape fics, and one from me. :) Most of these have to do with the afterlife, or grief, or both - but hey, that's what resonates for me most strongly.

vilakins (Blake's7)
Seven Gifts - Vila has a near-death experience.
Through the Gate - the single most beautifully christian piece of Fanfic I've ever read, that manages not to be preachy or hit-you-over the head, that has light humour and... I'm not doing this justice. Just read it.
Let There Be Light - Holiday fic, perfect both for its fascinating look at how Christmas/Haunika/Yule/Solstice (sp?) has evolved to the time of Blake's 7, and for the warm glow you get from reading it (pun intended).

hrafen (Blake's7)
Happy Ending - Travis in the afterlife. Very approachable to someone unfamiliar with the fandom, and very interesting.
In My Hands - there's a bit of slashyness in this one, yes, but it's very mild and not at all explicit, and this really is a must-read for the way it touches on forgiveness, and faith, and how not only what we do in this life affects the next, but perhaps who and how we love, too.
The Longest Night - another, very different but no less thought provoking, take on Christmas in the future.

astrogirl2 (Farscape, and Farscape Crossovers)
Night Goes On - Stark left Talyn in season three because he heard (the already dead) Zhaan calling his name. Canon has never told us if he found her, and found out why she was calling him. This fic is the best answer I've ever seen.
Die Trying - Astro was charge to write a conversation between Crais and Zhaan, and discovered that the only time they had to really sit down and talk wasa after they both died. Hence, this fic. People pretty much either love or hate this one, as it can be interpreted as promoting conversion. I personally just love it for being one person sharing experiences of their faith with another.
Thermodynamics of the Soul - that Zhaan was willing to trade her life with Stark for Aeryn's with John is something I think all S/Z shippers and perhaps all Stark fans struggle with. This is the fic that helped me make my peace with it.
Fire and Brimstone - the other side of Zhaan, pre-conversion, in her youth as a rebel and anarchist. The contrast between these two fics is, I think, perhaps the most amazing thing about them, and Zhaan.
Bribing the Boatman - Stark makes a deal with a devil. Crossover with Lexx.
Liberations - around full circle - crossover with Blakes7. Answering the questions of both "what happens when good AIs die?" and "how did Stark come back from being dispersed?" in a highly satisfying way.

And finally, only here because OTHER people continually tell me it's deeply moving and spiritual: my own Blessings - Farscape/DS9 crossover, Kira&Stark ampersand, dealing with grief and involving some soul-searching. Literally.
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From:astrogirl2
Date:December 30th, 2006 09:23 pm (UTC)

Re: As Promised...

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Do any of those really deal with faith as such though? I dunno, I guess I'm not really the best person to judge. Or maybe we're using different definitions of "faith." I think there is a difference between stories that deal with religious or spiritual matters and stories that deal with the concept of faith... (Or, we might say, between "a faith" and "faith.") I write the former all the time, but they're usually about other things entirely. I think.

Maybe "Night Comes On" (note: this is the actual title :)) deals a bit with faith... I'd say it was faith in Zhaan, rather than religious faith, but I'm not sure how separable the two are for Stark, especially under the circumstances. It should perhaps be kept in mind, though, that Stark is kinda crazy... Some day perhaps I'll write a story in which his deep, touching faith gets him absolutely nowhere. :)

People pretty much either love or hate this one, as it can be interpreted as promoting conversion.

Amusingly, I'm pretty much in the "hate" camp, even though I wrote the thing! It wasn't supposed to be about conversion to anything; it was supposed to be about second chances, and the similarities between Zhaan and Crais, and that whole "you can be more" thing, and the extent to which our environment constrains us from becoming the people who have the potential to be. Or something like that. It didn't do a very good job of it, I think. :)

I'd think, honestly, the only thing I've ever written that was really about religious faith was maybe this drabble. And that was to some extent, just my attempt to elucidate a character's worldview even though it's very different from my own. (Well, a little bit. Mostly it was an attempt to get the doggone fanfic100 prompts done somehow. :))
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From:izhilzha
Date:December 31st, 2006 11:45 pm (UTC)

Re: As Promised...

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Yay! Look at all those recs. I know what I'm doing tomorrow. :-) Thank you so much for taking the time to hunt these down!
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From:lizamanynames
Date:December 30th, 2006 08:03 pm (UTC)

And a Bonus

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Because I found a link to a rec-list I made in my boookmarks, I've decided to add a bunch of Zhaan-fic recs by various authors, because she is such a deeply spiritual character, she lends herself to it so well.
The Seek by Sunshine - I don't think a more in-depth and satisfying exploration of what exactly is involved in Zhaan's beliefs and practises has ever been written.
The Fourth Sensation by Hybridbabe - Interesting look at Delvian mental abilities, as well as a possible inspiring moment for Zhaan to have started on the path of Pa'u.
Lost Soul Found by ltgarrix, On the First Day by mtgat, and To Hell and Swallowed by voleuse - three equally brilliant and thought-provoking takes on how Zhaan "came to the goddess" - an event described in canon as "One moment, I was lying in my cell, a savage capable of anything. The next, the truth was revealed to me, and I knew my true path."
Meditations on a Flame by Christina Kamnikar - an incredible exploration of the canon idea that a little bit of the soul is left behind when two people share Unity, Delvian mind-meld.

There's lots more out there in terms of fic dealing with faith, in Farscape and many other fandoms, but I REALLY need to clean this sty before I leave for work - my Dad arrives today.
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From:jedibuttercup
Date:January 11th, 2007 06:45 am (UTC)
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I'm going to have to bookmark this to come back to. Because, what an excellent idea!

I come from a background of, I read all the Peretti and Grace Livingston Hill & etc. I could as a young teen to the point of overdosing on it, then moved on to devour half the library's sci fi section, then sampled Regency romances, then went back to Christian literature and kind of... ran aground. Too much "ah, my eyes!" obnoxiousness or anvil-dropping or overly-treacly, raised-to-unrealistic-levels "poverty and hardships matter not as long as we have God and each other" plotlines. The idea of an index of faith-based fic I won't have to cover my eyes and squint through my fingers to enjoy makes me smile.

And who knows, maybe I'll find a few more links trolling through my old .txt ficindexes.
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From:izhilzha
Date:January 11th, 2007 05:52 pm (UTC)
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I hated the "Christian romances." I've been actively avoiding most modern Christian fiction since junior high, actually. The exceptions being a couple of scifi/fantasy authors (Kathy Tyers! though most of her work was published by secular scifi publishers; and Stephen Lawhead), and Peretti (who actually isn't bad, especially The Visitation).

The idea of an index of faith-based fic I won't have to cover my eyes and squint through my fingers to enjoy makes me smile.

Me too! :-) I'm actually hoping that we might gather enough links to make a proper page, so others may benefit as well....
From:rydra_wong
Date:January 17th, 2007 05:33 pm (UTC)
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*returns belatedly to say:*

Okay, I'd be seriously interested to see what you have to say about the latest SG1 ep, Line in the Sand. Because they finally stopped dancing around them and dealt with some of the issues about faith and religion implicit in the whole Ori storyline. It wasn't the most sophisticated theology the world has ever known, but I was pleasantly surprised to see them address it at all, and in a not-dumb manner.
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From:izhilzha
Date:January 17th, 2007 07:20 pm (UTC)
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When was there new SG-1?! I thought I was keeping a good eye on SciFi! (are you Canadian? You guys got Atlantis early....)

When I watch it, I will totally post and ponder. Sounds interesting. I'm glad they're finally going there, a little.

(Have I said that I'm quite fond of that Cam icon? It is Cam, right?)
From:rydra_wong
Date:January 17th, 2007 09:19 pm (UTC)
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Nah, I'm British - this time we were the ones to get it early.

And yes, this is one of my Cam icons *g*.

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