December 12th, 2008
|11:57 am - NCIS (question)|
Okay. I guess I have to confess that I've crossed some invisible line this year regarding this show. It's never been a favorite (I think partly because Tony DiNozzo is a sexual harassment suit waiting to happen; I like the character, but I always felt sorry for Kate), but I tend to enjoy it when I do watch it, and lately I've been watching some reruns as well as the new episodes.
Which leads me to some musings on the show, which I doubt I shall ever engage with to the extent of my actual fandoms; and to a question re: NCIS fanfiction.
This show reminds me very much of its parent show, JAG. The same mix of fun characters, mystery, personal life, and action. As I said above, I think my biggest reason for not watching was always Tony; I hate working in an environment that is less than professional, and Kate may have liked Tony but she didn't like his sense of humor. That's less of an issue for me with Ziva on the team, since she could break Tony with her little finger and he knows it. *g*
Gibbs is always fun to watch, especially when he's doing his version of "comforting" a team member. (Gibbs raps out an assignment for Kate, one for McGee, and then takes McGee's food away from him and hands it to the still-recovering Tony. "Tony, eat something." LOL.)
And Abby? One of the most entertaining and awesome female characters currently out there. (Ducky is great too; David McCallum, ladies and gentlemen.)
My attitude has softened to this show partly because of Bones, I think. I regarded both as sub-standard CSI clones until I started watching more closely, and realized that both can do really good plots but their strength lies in watching the characters react to said plots.
I don't know whether I have any NCIS fans on my flist, but here's a question I won't necessarily find an easy answer to: where can I find h/c with Gibbs as the one hurt? Preferably gen, with someone other than Ducky giving comfort.
Also, are there any episodes where Gibbs is the one who gets hurt? Seems like Tony is the show's whipping boy, in general; and what I've seen of fanfiction bears this out, with occasional detours into making Kate or Ziva (or Abby) into damsels in distress.
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|Date:||December 12th, 2008 08:36 pm (UTC)|| |
I have a long not-finished NCIS procedural thing and a shorter thing I started after Twilight, and just the last couple of weeks I got hit with a third in the series having to do with Gibbs' lost memory.
Hiatus would be an episode for you, so would Sharif Returns.
Second season, for the most part, was my least favorite season because I couldn't stand the interaction between Tony and Kate. Tony really hits my irritation and embarrassment switches in the first two years, but lately I've begun to like him a little more.
Gibbs, of course, is my favorite... you couldn't have guessed, could you?
But I've really enjoyed all of the female characters on the show.
|Date:||December 12th, 2008 10:04 pm (UTC)|| |
I would read anything you wrote for NCIS. :) (Heck, I read a lot of Simple Gifts, and I'm an avowed non-fan of Highlander, with next to no knowledge of canon.)
Hiatus, is that the one where Gibbs gets mostly blown up? *g* I think I saw part of that, once. *makes note of other ep title*
I couldn't stand the interaction between Tony and Kate.
Yeah. I'm not sure if I took his behavior more personally because Kate kept taking it personally, or if it was just as with you: Tony does hit my irritation and embarrassment buttons awfully hard, especially in early eps. (I was shocked that I liked "SWAK" so much; maybe it's that Tony really is brave even when he's whining, and that gets me. Gibbs telling him that he won't die didn't hurt. *g*)
I'm not sure why Tony's banter with Ziva doesn't bother me nearly as much. Still trying to figure that one out. (Banter with Abby does not need explaining. It is Abby, and even Tony is helpless before her.)
|Date:||December 20th, 2008 03:29 am (UTC)|| |
Well, okay, then, I'll post what I have.
I think I took Tony's behavior so badly because it was so incredibly unprofessional. Kate's, sometimes, wasn't much better, but the two of them got unbearable in 2nd season. And yet, there were some remarkable episodes in second season.
I think his banter with Ziva isn't as nasty. He doesn't snoop in her purse or answer her phone (much).
Abby is Abby. Gibbs is helpless before Abby's banter. Sometimes he just has to put on his best Gibbs tone and verbally head-smack her. And then she's normal... for a little while.
I'm afraid to ask what you thought of Simple Gifts, since you didn't make it all the way through...
|Date:||December 12th, 2008 08:50 pm (UTC)|| |
*raises finger* NCIS fan reporting in. :-)
As for Gibbs hurt on the show, he got shot in Season 1 (in Bête Noir) and we had him nearly blown to pieces in Hiatus (end of Season 3), but there wasn't much of h/c on the show actually, at least not in comparison to the Tony h/c in SWAK. There's also Season 5's Requiem where he nearly drowns and Tony comes to the rescue. *g*
As for fic... no idea. I haven't actually read a lot of NCIS lately. From what I've saved, one of my favorites is lila-blue's "After Darkness", but it's slash (or pre-slash, if you subscribe to that kind of differentiation).
I like Tony, but I wished he were a more constant character. The others have a more linear development and Tony seems to be all over the place which can be a little unnerving. And yeah, after giving him THE PLAGUE, of course he's the major whipping boy. *g* Just like Blair is.
|Date:||December 12th, 2008 10:09 pm (UTC)|| |
Oh that's right, you've even written fic, haven't you? :)
*makes note of Bete Noir and Requiem*
Is Bete Noir the one I haven't seen, the first one with Ari?
there wasn't much of h/c on the show actually, at least not in comparison to the Tony h/c in SWAK.
No kidding. I just saw that ep for the first time, and was like, "HI H/C FANFIC ON MY SHOW. \o/ "
Well, if you even run into fic with Gibbs hurt (and it's character-consistent, which I demand with characters like Gibbs), pass it along, huh? :)
I like Tony, but I wished he were a more constant character. The others have a more linear development and Tony seems to be all over the place which can be a little unnerving.
I haven't been able to notice this, watching stuff so out of order; but he does seem to have grown up considerably between the first couple of seasons and the current one. Is that just an illusion on my part?
|Date:||December 12th, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)|| |
Yep, I did dabble a bit in NCIS. *g*
Bête Noir is the first one with Ari, correct. That was actually the first ep I've seen after the two introductory JAG eps. And then SWAK happened. *g* Still my favorite ep to date and not only because of the h/c.
I'll probably do a Gibbs fic search soon, since I'll have to stock up my fic collection. And character consistency is a must, definitely.
Tony has matured over the seasons, but to me it sometimes seems like a one step forward, two steps back kind of thing. There always are a couple of episodes per season where he's just comic relief and as juvenile as back in Season 2. It doesn't exactly damp my love for the character, but I wished it were more consistent. Like with McGee for example. But Tony's antics work better with Ziva than with Kate and I like the UST with the both of them. *g*
|Date:||December 13th, 2008 02:08 am (UTC)|| |
And then SWAK happened. *g* Still my favorite ep to date and not only because of the h/c.
I thought that episode was exceptionally strong. Good plot, weird resolution that wasn't pretty or easy, Tony survives but just barely, all the stuff with Tony and Kate was wonderful, and that scene where Gibbs goes in and tells him he's not going to die just about killed me dead.
But Tony's antics work better with Ziva than with Kate and I like the UST with the both of them.
Maybe that's the difference. I don't see any UST with Ziva, I just see her beating Tony at his own game in her own way. There was a TON of sexual tension between Tony and Kate and it often got kind of uncomfortable and weird. And I'm saying this despite "SWAK" and other such eps. *g*
|Date:||December 12th, 2008 09:41 pm (UTC)|| |
Of course you know Tony is just Obsy somewhere in the timestream under deep deep cover. ;-D
|Date:||December 12th, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC)|| |
*sporfle* Don't tempt me to write that one, dude. It would get long and very amusing.
While I have seen Gibbs h/c, it's only in the context of Gibbs/Ducky slash, so I'm leery making recs.
|Date:||December 14th, 2008 03:39 am (UTC)|| |
Oh, geez. I honestly can't see slashing those two--I love the friendship too much. Though since Ducky is, as far as I know, the only person who has canonically been allowed to offer comfort to Gibbs, I suppose the limiting of the h/c to such situations makes some sense.