Thanks for pointing to this!

Sometimes I amuse myself by trying to figure out whether "I'm good because I'm rich" or "I'm rich because I'm good" is more morally bankrupt.

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Sometimes I amuse myself by trying to figure out whether "I'm good because I'm rich" or "I'm rich because I'm good" is more morally bankrupt.
They're both sickening.

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It is nice to know that there are indeed things that people from your side and from my side of the religious spectrum can wholeheartedly agree on. :)

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I LOVED THAT. He nailed it, perfectly. Linking the whole "I don't need God except in emergencies and can live quite happily the way I want to" to the economic crisis (fueled and exacerbated as it was by shortsightedness, greed, and the desire for unrestrained, instant gratification) is that kind of brilliance that makes me go, WHY DIDN'T I SEE THAT BEFORE?

And yes. Theology SO has consequences. 'Cause what we believe decides what we do.

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From that post:

The more you fear the theocon menace, the more you'll welcome the Oprahfication of Christianity

Not necessarily. In fact, there are atheistic activists who argue that wishy-washy moderate religion is a bad thing because it essentially creates a nice protective cocoon of acceptability around the whole thing, including the most extreme and damaging varieties. (I, personally, have very mixed and somewhat uncomfortable feelings about this particular assertion.)

Me, I'd much rather a clear-thinking humanism motivating our politicians than a "mushy, muddle-headed" Christianity any day. :)

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In fact, there are atheistic activists who argue that wishy-washy moderate religion is a bad thing because it essentially creates a nice protective cocoon of acceptability around the whole thing, including the most extreme and damaging varieties.
What, they want all religion to be outlawed, or something like that?

Me, I'd much rather a clear-thinking humanism motivating our politicians than a "mushy, muddle-headed" Christianity any day.

Well, a clear-thinking anything would be better than muddle-headed thinking any day, surely?

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What, they want all religion to be outlawed, or something like that?

They want to talk everybody out of it, mostly. Unfortunately, they tend most often to be the folks who don't take a tone that's likely to talk anybody into or out of anything they're not already inclined to believe. IMHO, of course.

Well, a clear-thinking anything would be better than muddle-headed thinking any day, surely?

Depends on the definition of clear-thinking, I suppose. One can be very intelligent, thoughtful, and logical, but still be proceeding from bad axioms. And people thinking very clearly about how to do exactly the wrong things can, indeed, be worse than those who are just muddled.

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Well, a clear-thinking anything would be better than muddle-headed thinking any day, surely?

Kat, you stole my response, almost word for word. *g*

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Intriguing.

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Good article (speaking as an obnoxious Anglo-Catholic socialist *g*)

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